It seems like a league version of the Chatham Cup knock out - from the above variations mentioned.
ISPS Handa Premiership
While I don't attend the games due to time, I do look for the Canterbury results (male and female). I can't see that I will have any interest in seeing how well Cash Tech are doing against a team I don't know from Wellington. If this becomes the view of the average fan then interest could disappear in this format very quickly - and with it the sponsorship money as they have limited exposure.
While it may have been financially needed for the federations, they are just passing the buck to clubs to fill the $$ hole to compete.
I can also see very uneven regional matches now. EG Mainland premier will have 1 or 2 powerful clubs taking the best players, that used to be a bit more spread out, because they need them in the Southern or national league later.
How good is the keeper for the Phoenix reserve team! He is pulling out some top drawer saves lately.
In fact, the reserve team has been worth the watch this season
Totally agree. Watched most of their games thanks to Sky and YouTube and I've been impressed by a few of those youngsters. The keeper is really good and his distribution is top notch
been loving that i can watch it from japan, Loved watching the reserves play the first half before switching to watch team wellington play the second.... great games
been loving that i can watch it from japan, Loved watching the reserves play the first half before switching to watch team wellington play the second.... great games
I have also enjoyed watching most of the games, been great to have the option
hey random chat, but is there a round highlights package online anywhere?
Check out Skysports Next channel on YouTube
should they make next years two prescribed u20 players mandatory kiwis?
How good is the keeper for the Phoenix reserve team! He is pulling out some top drawer saves lately.
In fact, the reserve team has been worth the watch this season
Alex Paulsen? My son says he’s top.
hey random chat, but is there a round highlights package online anywhere?
Highlights are found on NZ Football Youtube Channel.
Full game replays are found on Sky Sport Next Youtube Channel.
I'm watching Waitak V Auckland City and it's a pretty decent game. 2-0 to Auckland after 30 mins and they should be up 4-0. Number 22 (Mohamed Awad) scored the first. Awad then not only hit the cross bar from range with his left foot shot, but 30 seconds later he hit the right post with a right foot shot on the turn. He looks very useful. Logan Rogerson scored Auckland's second goal.
I'm watching Waitak V Auckland City and it's a pretty decent game. 2-0 to Auckland after 30 mins and they should be up 4-0. Number 22 (Mohamed Awad) scored the first. Awad then not only hit the cross bar from range with his left foot shot, but 30 seconds later he hit the right post with a right foot shot on the turn. He looks very useful. Logan Rogerson scored Auckland's second goal.
Honestly, that's the best game I've seen Awad play and even then I'm not that impressed. Fritters possession, bad decision making, questionable passing. He's certainly got good feet (which is to be expected as he's a Futsal player), but once Tade's back from injury I'd hope he's dropped.
Interesting comment about Awad .Can see some merit in that but he was exciting to watch. You could sense the crowd look closer whenever he had the ball. Hit the post twice in a couple of minutes in the first half - many people around me thought the first one crossed the line but it happened too quick.
On a separate point the pitch at Seddon is a disgrace. Turf pitchs are fine for recreational foootball but for the top level they should be binned. Bobbles , dubious ball speed and hell they reflect a lot of heat in summer for a spectator let alone the players.
Interesting comment about Awad .Can see some merit in that but he was exciting to watch. You could sense the crowd look closer whenever he had the ball. Hit the post twice in a couple of minutes in the first half - many people around me thought the first one crossed the line but it happened too quick.
On a separate point the pitch at Seddon is a disgrace. Turf pitchs are fine for recreational foootball but for the top level they should be binned. Bobbles , dubious ball speed and hell they reflect a lot of heat in summer for a spectator let alone the players.
Bobbles? Really? Ball hitting those divots and bumps and gouges from knee slides?
Most turfs I've seen have been deceptively flat and inimpeding.
Perhaps poor control and not striking through the centre of the ball might be the reason for bobbling.
And the only thing wrong with the ball speed is it allows poor players to play a pass at the pace it should be played, but they get in the bad habit of hitting it softer and consequently not nearly quick enough when they get back on grass.
Seddon could benefit from occasional use of a grooming machine to lift the pile however.
Interesting comment about Awad .Can see some merit in that but he was exciting to watch. You could sense the crowd look closer whenever he had the ball. Hit the post twice in a couple of minutes in the first half - many people around me thought the first one crossed the line but it happened too quick.
On a separate point the pitch at Seddon is a disgrace. Turf pitchs are fine for recreational foootball but for the top level they should be binned. Bobbles , dubious ball speed and hell they reflect a lot of heat in summer for a spectator let alone the players.
Bobbles? Really? Ball hitting those divots and bumps and gouges from knee slides?
Most turfs I've seen have been deceptively flat and inimpeding.
Perhaps poor control and not striking through the centre of the ball might be the reason for bobbling.
And the only thing wrong with the ball speed is it allows poor players to play a pass at the pace it should be played, but they get in the bad habit of hitting it softer and consequently not nearly quick enough when they get back on grass.
Seddon could benefit from occasional use of a grooming machine to lift the pile however.
From this week's Niche Cache.
"Bringing us to the final game of the Premiership’s 2021 return and it was Waitakere United hosting Auckland City at the rotten turf of Seddon Fields. An artificial surface on which the ball doesn’t even roll flat? Yup, that’s the one. Makes you wonder for all the changes coming to this competition next season and all the chat about how to better develop future footballers at this level in Aotearoa... maybe the best thing anyone could do is actually to invest in proper grass playing surfaces and training facilities? Get players coming through who trust their touch, who have confidence to play the ball in tight areas, that kinda thing?
You wanna know what current players and coaches think about it, just look at the unanimous disgust directed at that pitch in the replies to Piney’s tweet here...
https://twitter.com/pineyzb/status/134810587390683...
Worth adding that there are plenty more crap surfaces around the league that NZF allows games to be played on as well. This one is fast becoming the worst – those turfs require way more maintenance than people seem to realise and the technology moves quickly making them swiftly out of date. Personal opinion: there’s no reason why a summer league in Aotearoa should have any artificial surfaces whatsoever. This ain’t Scandinavia in the snow. This is lush, green New Zealand. Then again plenty of the grass ones look awful too... this is what I mean about prioritising the playing surfaces)"
Interesting comment about Awad .Can see some merit in that but he was exciting to watch. You could sense the crowd look closer whenever he had the ball. Hit the post twice in a couple of minutes in the first half - many people around me thought the first one crossed the line but it happened too quick.
On a separate point the pitch at Seddon is a disgrace. Turf pitchs are fine for recreational foootball but for the top level they should be binned. Bobbles , dubious ball speed and hell they reflect a lot of heat in summer for a spectator let alone the players.
Bobbles? Really? Ball hitting those divots and bumps and gouges from knee slides?
Most turfs I've seen have been deceptively flat and inimpeding.
Perhaps poor control and not striking through the centre of the ball might be the reason for bobbling.
And the only thing wrong with the ball speed is it allows poor players to play a pass at the pace it should be played, but they get in the bad habit of hitting it softer and consequently not nearly quick enough when they get back on grass.
Seddon could benefit from occasional use of a grooming machine to lift the pile however.
Not all artificial turfs are made equal - Seddon Fields is appalling and it's an absolute disgrace that national league football is played on that surface. The flipside is that there are also grass pitches in the league that are woeful (well, at least one) - Maddils Farm.
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mena he's back at Wainui in the winter?
just in regards to Seddon Fields - after the first year the manufacturer gives the maintenance contract to the council - and that's where the problems start - the council contractors are useless in every sense of the word, and what your seeing at Seddon is the result of a poor or non-existent maintenance program.
However as has been alluded to - there are much worse fields that have had national league played on them.
At Western Springs you have good changing facilities, good clubrooms - perhaps a lack of seating for the spectators but that's not really a massive one.
I personally prefer the Waitak games there than when they played at Trusts or Fred Taylor - bigger crowds as well.
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mena he's back at Wainui in the winter?
I thought someone said he was going back to UK? But if he has decided to stay and he has been signed by TW you’d have to say he will be at Miramar!
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mena he's back at Wainui in the winter?
I thought someone said he was going back to UK? But if he has decided to stay and he has been signed by TW you’d have to say he will be at Miramar!
out of NZ & UK I know where I'd rather be ATM
I'd heard part of the HBU deal was that he signed for Napier in the winter
Wainui would be pretty keen to keep him, as it's pretty much all they have (not even a coach as yet - well not announced)
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mena he's back at Wainui in the winter?
[quote=Napier Phoenix]
[quote=The JourneyFan]
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mena he's back at Wainui in the winter?From what I saw of him at HBU, he is out of his depth at NL level.
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Regardless of whatever league he happened to play when he first came (scouted) to NZ (prem not cap1), HBU signed him and played him (their whole team was shocking when I saw then a couple of times last year). Now a far better team TW have picked him up. So to say he is out of his depth at NL seems like purely a person opinion. If he gets on for TW he will have proved you wrong
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Regardless of whatever league he happened to play when he first came (scouted) to NZ (prem not cap1), HBU signed him and played him (their whole team was shocking when I saw then a couple of times last year). Now a far better team TW have picked him up. So to say he is out of his depth at NL seems like purely a person opinion. If he gets on for TW he will have proved you wrong
Yeah, never disagreed. I think he's fine at this level
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Not a lot of 'soon' left...
Who here in Wellington is going Sunday afternoon for Nix v Waitak?? 4pm Kick off? I finish work at 2pm so I think I'll go to this.
Hamilton OG Today was comical
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Regardless of whatever league he happened to play when he first came (scouted) to NZ (prem not cap1), HBU signed him and played him (their whole team was shocking when I saw then a couple of times last year). Now a far better team TW have picked him up. So to say he is out of his depth at NL seems like purely a person opinion. If he gets on for TW he will have proved you wrong
Kalian Gould signed for Team Wellington - will that mean he's back at Wainui in the winter?
Cap 1 to HBU is a massive step up, and he's only had six games to acclimatise. Think he may end up being a decent NL player soon. Not sure TW need another player like him though
Regardless of whatever league he happened to play when he first came (scouted) to NZ (prem not cap1), HBU signed him and played him (their whole team was shocking when I saw then a couple of times last year). Now a far better team TW have picked him up. So to say he is out of his depth at NL seems like purely a person opinion. If he gets on for TW he will have proved you wrong
Last year as in a month ago. Great you have a high bar for the league
Does anyone know who the female commentator Norel(?) was in the ACFC game yesterday? She was great and a refreshing change for the usual tripe we have.
Narelle Sindos. Does a lot of the women’s prem games and been a sports broadcaster on Newshub for a bit. Clayton Lewis’ missus. Definitely a breath of fresh air I agree, I also appreciated the co-commentator who actually provided insight, info and analysis on the players and game rather than bluntly describing the action as it happens like most this season
Cheers mate. Agreed, it was nice to have someone actually do their research and anaylisis
Cheers mate. Agreed, it was nice to have someone actually do their research and anaylisis
Who was it, do you know?
Narelle's comments person was Jacob Spoonley I think.
The new club based format I give to last only a few years. Utterly dumb and will destroy football in the regions. Clubs merging already. NZ Football should change its name to Northern Football. So if you're in a regional centre and good, then you're going to have to move to Auckland to be noticed. Sadly the boffins in football management are blind & deaf and journos like Andrew Voerman are so naaive and ignorant. Its the death knell. I've already pulled my sponsorship and I know many others have. I'll become a Yellow Fever supporter now - thats all.
The new club based format I give to last only a few years. Utterly dumb and will destroy football in the regions. Clubs merging already. NZ Football should change its name to Northern Football. So if you're in a regional centre and good, then you're going to have to move to Auckland to be noticed. Sadly the boffins in football management are blind & deaf and journos like Andrew Voerman are so naaive and ignorant. Its the death knell. I've already pulled my sponsorship and I know many others have. I'll become a Yellow Fever supporter now - thats all.
Bit harsh. But the new format is for sure going to make NZ Football even more Auckland centric, and that won't be a good thing for the South Island especially and other regions like Hawkes Bay. Younger promising players outside the 2 Wellington based academies, may just feel they have to move to the big smoke to get noticed.
I'd keep a little eye on whatever Slava Meyn has planned longer term in Christchurch, once Covid is hopefully gone from our lives.
The new club based format I give to last only a few years. Utterly dumb and will destroy football in the regions. Clubs merging already. NZ Football should change its name to Northern Football. So if you're in a regional centre and good, then you're going to have to move to Auckland to be noticed. Sadly the boffins in football management are blind & deaf and journos like Andrew Voerman are so naaive and ignorant. Its the death knell. I've already pulled my sponsorship and I know many others have. I'll become a Yellow Fever supporter now - thats all.
In fairness, I do owe you a reply to your last email and the two-month delay is on me, but... my first point in reply was going to be that the new national league starts in March (in less than eight weeks in fact) and ends in December – you can't fixate on the 10-team national championship phase from October to December as 'the national league' as that's not what this is.
With that in mind, this is plainly a format that gives 'the regions' a more level playing field than before, so how will it destroy football in them?
Why would a format that puts (in year one anyway) 10 Auckland clubs, 2 Waikato clubs, 1 Napier club, 1 Masterton club, 8 Wellington clubs, 1 Nelson club, 6 Christchurch clubs, 1 Lincoln club, 6 Dunedin clubs (including Mosgiel), and 2 Queenstown/Wanaka clubs on the same footing make you have to move to Auckland to be noticed?
(I'd note a whole heap of other regional centres – New Plymouth, Palmerston North, and Tauranga to name just three – are now just a step below, with the ability to step up on merit.).
I'm aware of one merger that has specifically been driven by these changes (Caversham/Dunedin Tech=South Coast United) but I can't see why building stronger entities with stronger membership bases is a bad thing? Fewer, better-resourced clubs strikes me as a good thing.
All that's before you get to the logistical (clear pathways v some of the most confusing I've ever seen) and financial (standalone summer national league = financially unsustainable) elements.
If that makes me naive and ignorant...
The new club based format I give to last only a few years. Utterly dumb and will destroy football in the regions. Clubs merging already. NZ Football should change its name to Northern Football. So if you're in a regional centre and good, then you're going to have to move to Auckland to be noticed. Sadly the boffins in football management are blind & deaf and journos like Andrew Voerman are so naaive and ignorant. Its the death knell. I've already pulled my sponsorship and I know many others have. I'll become a Yellow Fever supporter now - thats all.
Bit harsh. But the new format is for sure going to make NZ Football even more Auckland centric, and that won't be a good thing for the South Island especially and other regions like Hawkes Bay. Younger promising players outside the 2 Wellington based academies, may just feel they have to move to the big smoke to get noticed.
I'd keep a little eye on whatever Slava Meyn has planned longer term in Christchurch, once Covid is hopefully gone from our lives.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/domestic/11...
Why is it going to make NZ Football even more Auckland centric? (if, indeed, it is Auckland-centric to a problematic extent)? Auckland is home to 1/3 of the country's population – and when you consider that it has 3x the population of the country's next biggest city, that naturally leads to a environment where it produces more good football clubs and players on a larger scale than that. 10 of the 38 clubs that are set to be at the national league start line in March are from Auckland, which is 27%, so if anything you could say it's under-represented.