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Ranix wrote:

Where did you see the highlights. Are they on-line somewhere?

I'm an optimistic pessimist. 

I'm positive things will go wrong.

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Doloras wrote:

Ranix wrote:

Where did you see the highlights. Are they on-line somewhere?

NZF YouTube channel

"Strat" was also scoring goals for fun for OneSports and  helped us get promoted to NRFL over winter. My dream is to play for the reserves team, but they'll probably sign some 17 year old wondergirl instead

yeah this is not new - she was a very dominant player for Northland for a number of seasons, including their one season in Premier League.

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Good things - 

WaiBOP return to Cambridge's John Kerkoff Park

Central using Massey University as a home ground

Southern taking a game to Invercargill.

Not so good - 4 fixture clashes in Auckland when Northern and Auckland playing at the same time in different parts of the city

When I did my end of season review last year, the one thing that came through loud and clear from the coaches was that the double round was a bad idea, very short turnaround, travel and no time for players to recover.

Did NZF listen? It appears not because yet again the two closest teams, Auckland & Northern play each other and not technically on the weekend, they have a Thursday night game and a Tuesday night game, a nice break of 5 days for their players to recover and no travel.

Meanwhile Canterbury play Southern and Capital play WaiBOP home and away a whole 2 days apart!!!!

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It's worth remembering that the number 1 decider for when games are and aren't is travel availability and cost.

That heavily influences the double header games. Auckland teams can play each on a weeknight evening because they're a 30 minute drive apart. The other need significant travel times and hence are on Saturday/Labour day.

It's also a big reason why they don't stagger same day kick off times - just not enough flights going to get one team there earlier or one team home later.

Why they've not staggered the Northern/Auckland home games to various week.... yeah I can't answer that one.

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Nix obviously didn't make any headway getting a women's team in the comp this year. Domey mentioned on the YF pod that they were keen. Would even up the number of teams. More opportunities etc.

I'm sure there is a lot of big picture stuff I don'y know about as to why it didn't happen this year. Hopefully NZF can plan for it next year and we can have a team in the W-League the year after.

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20 Legend wrote:

It's worth remembering that the number 1 decider for when games are and aren't is travel availability and cost.

That heavily influences the double header games. Auckland teams can play each on a weeknight evening because they're a 30 minute drive apart. The other need significant travel times and hence are on Saturday/Labour day.

It's also a big reason why they don't stagger same day kick off times - just not enough flights going to get one team there earlier or one team home later.

Why they've not staggered the Northern/Auckland home games to various week.... yeah I can't answer that one.

yes it is worth remembering that NZF put cost ahead of player welfare. (part of cost savings I understand they asked Southern United to drive to Christchurch last season, hardly good prep \ recovery for the players, 2 games and 5 hours drive each way in 3 days) 

Also doesn't really explain why they can't get Auckland or Northern to play a double header against Capital or Canterbury - at least rotate it around so it doesn't just give a massive advantage to those two teams

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Ranix wrote:

Nix obviously didn't make any headway getting a women's team in the comp this year. Domey mentioned on the YF pod that they were keen. Would even up the number of teams. More opportunities etc.

I'm sure there is a lot of big picture stuff I don'y know about as to why it didn't happen this year. Hopefully NZF can plan for it next year and we can have a team in the W-League the year after.

Dome alluded to the fact there were a few frustrations with NZF about this, with Weenix even offering to cover all the costs, but still getting nowhere. Sounds like the other federations are also worried they will lose their best young players, with fear many will choose to relocate to Wellington.

Of course all a bit short sighted, re the greater good of women's football. Dome stated Weenix first need to get a team into the national league, before they can setup a W League team - which would be a huge benefit to women's football in NZ. Hopefully they can find a solution, that keeps everyone reasonably happy.

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coochiee wrote:

Ranix wrote:

Nix obviously didn't make any headway getting a women's team in the comp this year. Domey mentioned on the YF pod that they were keen. Would even up the number of teams. More opportunities etc.

I'm sure there is a lot of big picture stuff I don'y know about as to why it didn't happen this year. Hopefully NZF can plan for it next year and we can have a team in the W-League the year after.

Dome alluded to the fact there were a few frustrations with NZF about this, with Weenix even offering to cover all the costs, but still getting nowhere. Sounds like the other federations are also worried they will lose their best young players, with fear many will choose to relocate to Wellington.

Of course all a bit short sighted, re the greater good of women's football. Dome stated Weenix first need to get a team into the national league, before they can setup a W League team - which would be a huge benefit to women's football in NZ. Hopefully they can find a solution, that keeps everyone reasonably happy.

"Dome stated Weenix first need to get a team into the national league, before they can setup a W League team".

This is what they want to do, but it's definitely not something they need to do. 

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Exactly the same draw as last year?? 

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Delta wrote:

Exactly the same draw as last year?? 

It's WaiBop v Capital not WaiBop v Central for the double-header weekend, so those fixtures have changed, at least.

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Hi 20 Legend, in my experience (former long-time administrator currently serving a 1 year ban from the code) the "number 1 decider" for games at that time of year is actually availability of pitches.

My club attempted to accommodate WaiBOP women last year with what we consider an international-class surface at Gower Park.

However the problem with these sand carpet pitches is they require a spring and autumn renovation to keep them in top class condition. Typically in spring the turf will be scarified, cored, undersowed and 70 tonnes of sand spread on top, with a 6 week recovery time frame from early October.

This limits the availability of the pitch for matches, and with the need for the league to accommodate a home-away component of the draw it limits the availability of the pitch. Last summer half the games had to be played elsewhere.

We need to take our hat off to Cambridge for their community spirit in putting their hand up to accommodate WaiBOP this summer.

Though third party sources who have played there tell me their No 1 pitch is already in, erm, a less than perfect condition, and it obviously won't be getting the spring treatment, looking at that draw.

So that may be the trade-off: a pitch that can be made available regardless of other factors, rather than a top quality pitch where there are seasonal considerations to take into account.

Hope this helps.

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Delta wrote:

Exactly the same draw as last year?? 

no last year they reversed the rounds so the team you played in the first week was the team you played in the last week, this year they have gone for the more conventional rounds 1-6, then 7-12 so the team you play in week 1 will be who you play in the reverse fixture in round 7

Also it was Capital that got the bye on Labour weekend last season (Central this year)

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Hi 20 Legend, in my experience (former long-time administrator currently serving a 1 year ban from the code) the "number 1 decider" for games at that time of year is actually availability of pitches.

My club attempted to accommodate WaiBOP women last year with what we consider an international-class surface at Gower Park.

However the problem with these sand carpet pitches is they require a spring and autumn renovation to keep them in top class condition. Typically in spring the turf will be scarified, cored, undersowed and 70 tonnes of sand spread on top, with a 6 week recovery time frame from early October.

This limits the availability of the pitch for matches, and with the need for the league to accommodate a home-away component of the draw it limits the availability of the pitch. Last summer half the games had to be played elsewhere.

We need to take our hat off to Cambridge for their community spirit in putting their hand up to accommodate WaiBOP this summer.

Though third party sources who have played there tell me their No 1 pitch is already in, erm, a less than perfect condition, and it obviously won't be getting the spring treatment, looking at that draw.

So that may be the trade-off: a pitch that can be made available regardless of other factors, rather than a top quality pitch where there are seasonal considerations to take into account.

Hope this helps.

Appreciate the insight, and I'm sure that too is a consideration, but may comments have been made on really good authority as well.

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Interesting outcome around the appointment of the CF National Womens league team Head Coach. The CF employee who was holding the interviews decided to give herself the role!!

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Bayern wrote:

Interesting outcome around the appointment of the CF National Womens league team Head Coach. The CF employee who was holding the interviews decided to give herself the role!!

Great look considering they are chasing coaches in the W League to quickly pay the 2k to get the required coaching qualifications whilst taking away any pathway of growth in the process. 

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...no last year they reversed the rounds so the team you played in the first week was the team you played in the last week, this year they have gone for the more conventional rounds 1-6, then 7-12 so the team you play in week 1 will be who you play in the reverse fixture in round 7

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Almost, Week 12 and Week 13 have been swapped compared to Week 5 and Week 6.

There should be more swapping of rounds to negate the carry-over effect you get with most round robin algorithms.  Note: how in weeks 2,3,6,7,9,10 Capital are playing the team with a bye the round before.  I'd be upset with that if I was them.

The other thing with most round robin algorithms is you should be able to find draw positions where for two teams one is always at home and one is always away and vice versa.  So note how Southern and Auckland are never at home or away on the same weekend (except for what occurs with Round 7).  So if you didn't want Auckland and Northern both at home on same weekend,  then it should be possible to factor that into the draw (subject to ground availability etc)

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Bayern wrote:

Interesting outcome around the appointment of the CF National Womens league team Head Coach. The CF employee who was holding the interviews decided to give herself the role!!

Worked out OK for Heraf....

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Central squad announced

including 1 from Wellington United (Nat Olson), 1 from Rapa (Flo MacIntyre) & 1 from Waterside Karori (Aoife Gallagher-Forbes)

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Canterbury United Pride squad which was announced August 16 to defend the title:

(first game this Sunday 1 pm, English Park vs. Capital) 

http://www.mainlandfootball.co.nz/newsarticle/80902?newsfeedId=803712

Large 22 member squad

Includes Kate Taylor and Sammie Senior, who both wore the captain’s armband during the recent NZ Football U16 tour to China.

Unfortunately, this season's Mainland Women’s Premier League (WPL) Golden Boot and long-time Pride striker Mel Cameron, has made the decision not to play and will instead take up a role as the team’s strength and conditioning coach.

Britneylee Nicholson re-joins the Pride after a year in Otago, and Bel Van Noorden and Lauren Dabner return after a few years away on soccer scholarships in the United States.

11 Coastal Spirit players (Mainland Women'sPremier League champions), 8 from Cashmere Technical, 2 from Waimakariri Utd., 1 unattached.

1. Una Foyle
Goal Keeper - Coastal Spirit

2. Marisa van der Meer
Defender - Cashmere Technical

3. Rebecca Lake
Defender - Coastal Spirit

4. Lara Wall
Forward - Cashmere Technical

5. Annie Gilchrist
Defender - Cashmere Technical

6. Chloe Jones
Defender - Coastal Spirit

7. Gabi Rennie
Forward - Waimakariri United

8. Tahlia Herman-Watt
Defender - Coastal Spirit

9. Jayda Stewart
Midfield - Waimakariri United

10. Annalie Longo
Midfield - Unattached

11. Macey Fraser
Midfield - Cashmere Technical

12. Lauren Dabner
Midfield - Coastal Spirit

13. Whitney Hepburn
Midfield - Coastal Spirit

14. Jasmine Donald
Defender - Coastal Spirit

15. Britney Lee Nicholson
Forward - Coastal Spirit

16. Sam Senior
Midfield - Cashmere Technical

17. Cody Taylor
Forward - Coastal Spirit

18. Frankie Morrow
Forward - Cashmere Technical

19. Ellena Firth
Midfield - Coastal Spirit

20. Kate Taylor
Defender - Cashmere Technical

21. Nicola Dominicovich
Forward - Cashmere Technical

22. TBC

23. Bel van Noorden
Midfield - Coastal Spirit

Big Pete 65, Christchurch

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