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Random question. When would Albert Riera qualify to play for NZ? Would he want to? Would we want him to?

English based All Whites fan! Would love to watch an All White game one day.  

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he would need NZ Passport - therefore NZ Citizen

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Feb 2016


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Will be 32. 34 if we qualify for Russia


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That's assuming he applied for residency as soon as he entered NZ.

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UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

Random question. When would Albert Riera qualify to play for NZ? Would he want to? Would we want him to?

On past history - by the time he's well past his best

Normo's coming home

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Better off getting Gorrin on a residence visa ASAP and hoping that he sticks around if he turns out to be as good as we hope.

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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i'd say we are better off focusing on players who are actually new zealanders, but i understand the tempation

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As far as I'm concerned we should pick the best players who are eligible. If a quality footballer from overseas wants to commit to NZ I don't think that's substantially different to us running round trying to find random players who qualify to play for us. Genuine question, but how long did Tommy Smith or WeeMac live in NZ as kids? Wikipedia doesn't say but it can't have been much longer than 5 years. And don't forget there's current AWs based in Europe who get "injured" before games, and not just friendlies. Go look at our squad from the last OFC nations cup...  So it's not like we have a lot of depth or even great commitment from our "real" NZ talent as it is

NZ citizen = NZer.

Which isn't to say that I think we should bulk import quality foreigners and wait for them to qualify but seeing as we only have one pro club that's unlikely to happen anyway.    

Edited by ConanTroutman July 16, 2014 11:19

People like Coldplay and voted for the Nazis. You can't trust people.

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NZ is a nation of immigrants, someone like Durante has more attachment to NZ than a few players in our squad who are eligible by birth, if Gorrin plays for us its because he chose NZ as home rather than being fortunate enough to be born here so in my mind would be more eligible to be a Kiwi than Reid or Smith.

And WeeMac spent a single year in NZ, hopefully more to come though.

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Diego Costa led the line for Spain at the WC. Deco played 75 times for Portugal. Marcos Senna played 28 times for Spain and was named in the team of the tournament when they won Euro 2008.  

All Brazilian. It's not like it's just footballing minnows who use naturalized players in their national teams. 

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Ryan wrote:

NZ is a nation of immigrants, someone like Durante has more attachment to NZ than a few players in our squad who are eligible by birth, if Gorrin plays for us its because he chose NZ as home rather than being fortunate enough to be born here so in my mind would be more eligible to be a Kiwi than Reid or Smith.

And WeeMac spent a single year in NZ, hopefully more to come though.

Smith or Weemac maybe, but Reid lived here until he was 10 and his middle name is Wiremu. Anyone who says that isn't kiwi enough is a fool (not having a go at you personally).

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Weemac was born here too wasn't he?
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Weemac was born here too wasn't he?
Yes, but left before he could speak.
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Fitzy wrote:

Ryan wrote:

NZ is a nation of immigrants, someone like Durante has more attachment to NZ than a few players in our squad who are eligible by birth, if Gorrin plays for us its because he chose NZ as home rather than being fortunate enough to be born here so in my mind would be more eligible to be a Kiwi than Reid or Smith.

And WeeMac spent a single year in NZ, hopefully more to come though.

Smith or Weemac maybe, but Reid lived here until he was 10 and his middle name is Wiremu. Anyone who says that isn't kiwi enough is a fool (not having a go at you personally).

Thought he was overseas longer than that, still 10 years old isn't old enough to call somewhere home. I lived in Auckland until I was 11, I don't consider myself an Aucklander.

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Gorrin aint turning down $150k a week to be here.....

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My position on players from another country playing for the All Whites is that they should be allowed to do so if they show a genuine commitment. The biggest question for me is whether or not they plan to live in New Zealand after they retire. I don't want to see people like Daniel try to play for the All Whites and then leave the country when they aren't good enough.

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Ryan54 wrote:

My position on players from another country playing for the All Whites is that they should be allowed to do so if they show a genuine commitment. The biggest question for me is whether or not they plan to live in New Zealand after they retire. I don't want to see people like Daniel try to play for the All Whites and then leave the country when they aren't good enough.

So you kinda mean like all the Aussies that played league for the Kiwis over the years then buggered off.

Grumpy old bastard alert

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well for one, he'd be too old to be an impact on the all whites when becoming a player. Daniel was always a useless player but great guy who's only pathway into the AW was because ricki herbert had his favoured selections from the nix, i still dont know why people would actually want him playing for the AW. The only reason people want to play for the AW is because they feel nz is their adopted home, or, more likely, they feel its a chance to play in a world cup or confed cup. If it raises the ability of our national team then shit i support it, however i'd perfer players in their some what 'decent' years rather than some 30/32/33 year old who is past but believe their own hype.

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Ryan wrote:

NZ is a nation of immigrants, someone like Durante has more attachment to NZ than a few players in our squad who are eligible by birth, if Gorrin plays for us its because he chose NZ as home rather than being fortunate enough to be born here so in my mind would be more eligible to be a Kiwi than Reid or Smith.

And WeeMac spent a single year in NZ, hopefully more to come though.

The only attachment that Durante has to NZ is that he had a job playing for the Nix, could not get in the Aussie team so he probably   decided that he wanted to be an international and applied for citizenship.

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