Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
2ndBest wrote:

I'm putting my money on De Jong.

That's actually a very real prospect. He was a CEO in his previous gig....

If one were to speculate, NZF has run at a loss after he came on board after Glading righted the wrongs of Seatter. Perhaps the board told him to get out while he had some credibility. Lets face it, if we do not qualify for Brazil, the ASB sponsorship is up end of next year and the money from WC2010 is gone. Thats nearly 3m less per year plus reserves.
Still Believin'
750
·
5.7K
·
about 17 years

Yeah, if we don't qualify for the next WC the next CEO has a lot of shit to push up a very steep hill. I reckon McKavanagh can see the writing on the wall.


Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years
TopLeft07 wrote:

I think everyone just wants to believe that some sort of dispute took place. Everyone loves a bit of drama.

Thats the case if your name is JV.

Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

Phoenix Academy
43
·
500
·
almost 12 years

Agree with Nightz, there can be many factors, some small that over time become a facilitator for change.

As a side which company was De Jong a CEO of?

Groundskeeper Willie
700
·
7.5K
·
about 16 years
nightz wrote:
TopLeft07 wrote:

I think everyone just wants to believe that some sort of dispute took place. Everyone loves a bit of drama.

Thats the case if your name is JV.

My name is actually ha.
Legend
2.1K
·
16K
·
about 17 years
nightz wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

It's hard not to read into one weeks notice
Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
Dino11 wrote:

Agree with Nightz, there can be many factors, some small that over time become a facilitator for change.

As a side which company was De Jong a CEO of?

I am a bit vague but was it not some Australasian sporting apparel company?
Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
Feverish wrote:
nightz wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

It's hard not to read into one weeks notice

Yeah. I doubt there is any company that would have 1 weeks notice for a senior role as a termination clause. Even salaried workers are generally 4 weeks. The only way you would get 1 week is if you had some extreme family hardship (assuming it was not disciplinary)
Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
nightz wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

You have your sources, I have mine.
TV
On probation
250
·
4.2K
·
over 13 years
Jeff Vader wrote:
Feverish wrote:
nightz wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

It's hard not to read into one weeks notice

Yeah. I doubt there is any company that would have 1 weeks notice for a senior role as a termination clause. Even salaried workers are generally 4 weeks. The only way you would get 1 week is if you had some extreme family hardship (assuming it was not disciplinary)

a 1 weeks notice clause is usually reserved for contractors or those on fixed term contracts for a year in some cases. Tis possible
Legend
2.1K
·
16K
·
about 17 years
TV wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
Feverish wrote:
nightz wrote:

Jeff Vader wrote:

1 weeks notice aye? Good riddance

Funny how I said there was dissent in the ranks and I was told I was talking bollocks. Nightz where are you now?

Here I am.

 People resign jobs everyday of the week, it dosent mean theres dissent in their workplace, you're reading way to much into it.

It's hard not to read into one weeks notice

Yeah. I doubt there is any company that would have 1 weeks notice for a senior role as a termination clause. Even salaried workers are generally 4 weeks. The only way you would get 1 week is if you had some extreme family hardship (assuming it was not disciplinary)


a 1 weeks notice clause is usually reserved for contractors or those on fixed term contracts for a year in some cases. Tis possible

not even then
Appiah without the pace
6.5K
·
19K
·
over 16 years

Or that he resigned 3 weeks ago, and only made it public today?

Lawyerish
1.8K
·
4.8K
·
over 13 years
Unlikely to time it the day of the venue announcement surely 2nd best? Would have looked a lot nicer three weeks ago. This type of role would also likely have longer then a mere 4 weeks notice. He was the CEO. Something smells rotten in Denmark


Legend
1.8K
·
22K
·
over 15 years

The phrase is "something is rotten in the state of Denmark"


Something that smells rotten in Denmark is probably fish (given that Lego is plastic and doesn't rot, and the little mermaid is made of bronze so is also not able to rot).

Moar stars
2K
·
4.7K
·
almost 12 years

Outgoing New Zealand Football chief executive Grant McKavanagh has explained the unusual timing of his resignation.

He leaves the role at a critical time for the sport, with the announcement of the venue for the All Whites' World Cup intercontinental playoff imminent.

McKavanagh says he has been a change manager at the organisation.

"I've always understood that my skill set would apply to the business for a period of time.

"And just with what's coming up and what's got to be locked in and the amount of time that's going to need to be involved, I've made a decision about where I want to head with that."

McKavanagh is adamant he's making the right decision to leave the organisation now, despite a busy upcoming calendar.

He is stepping down after two years at the helm, with the All Whites' World Cup playoff in November and the FIFA under-20 World Cup looming in 2015.

McKavanagh says having confirmed a venue for November's intercontinental playoff, it's a clean break.

"Having it made now and giving a good plan for that to move forward around the commercialisation of the game and the establishment of relations to move forward with, it's actually probably a pretty good time.

"Because all of that is set together."

http://www.radiosport.co.nz/news/spsoc/2141488702-football--mckavanagh-explains-timing-of-his-resignation

Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
2ndBest wrote:

Or that he resigned 3 weeks ago, and only made it public today?

Yes that is possible. The only reason you would announce it today is to try and bury it under the 'game's in Wellington' headline.

Not very smart considering any football headline gets latched onto very quickly (but then NZF knew that already)
Legend
2.1K
·
16K
·
about 17 years

It's not a good time though. Key decisions about warm up games need to be made. And then if we fail in Nov then the funding of NZF will need to be very well thought out. Sounds like he is probably sick of a stressful job with an organisation running on skeleton staff and would prefer to chill out and be in the White Noise zone at the cake tin.

Starting XI
1.5K
·
4.9K
·
over 15 years
Jeff Vader wrote:
Dino11 wrote:

Agree with Nightz, there can be many factors, some small that over time become a facilitator for change.

As a side which company was De Jong a CEO of?

I am a bit vague but was it not some Australasian sporting apparel company?

Computer software related to sports coaching/ management systems: "his long-standing job as general manager running the New Zealand office of a multi-national software company whose programs are used by New Zealand rugby and cricket, among others."

Unusually for a pro footballer, Fred combined contract computer programming work with playing for Fortuna Sittard in the Dutch top flight for three seasons (53 appearances, 6 goals)  and a season in the Second Div. 1990- 1994. Says he needed the mental stimulation he wasn't getting just from playing. Always one of the smarter footballers around...

Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
2ndBest wrote:

I'm putting my money on De Jong.

and if he gets the gig, you can just see who will get his role in behind him as he moves up.... step on down Mr R Herbert
Must try harder
96
·
1.5K
·
almost 17 years

its a big trough ,theres no need to push and shove...

Phoenix Academy
44
·
250
·
over 14 years

McK was promoted to his level on incompetence.  Should have kept selling TVs.  If you met him you would realise this - his arogance and poor performance was always going to catch up with him.  No one could work with someone that rated themselves so highly with no action to show for it.  A prize tosser.....  look at the staff that were walking out he was nearly the only one left.

U Turning
190
·
740
·
over 14 years


Yes NZF old boys club in top gear. De Jong, Herbert, Van Hattum etc. Don't think any of the NZ footy community really who's any good at NZF, or who's arrogant and who's not. But those who've been in the football community a wee while know the three names mentioned here will all be looking after themselves. After-all that FIFA gravy train is sure as hell hard to push aside. I'd shaft anyone to get amongst all that first class freebie stuff.

I thought Ryan Nelson did a great job with AW's at the last WC playoffs, but hey Bahrain are mediocre compared to Honduras or Panama, plus Nelson is not there in any capacity now. Nor will he want to either post Toronto season. But if Herbert doesn't get import technical help for the WC Playoffs, you can hold your tix for Wellington then, as the tie will be all over before the return leg. One assumes that's why Winston Reid came across on TV like a started muppet post Dunedin WCQ, as he'd probably never played amongst such a shambles for years, and the reality of it all down the WCQ track kicked in real quick.

 

Marquee
1.2K
·
5.5K
·
over 13 years

Early this year there were a whole heap of key jobs advertised. Herdman, Hunt & Priestman all left. I'd say we have quite a sizeable vacuum of talent at present, but also opportunities. Board needs to get smart about the next round of key appointments. 

Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years

Yes.

I'm not so guilable that I believe everythng thats written in the granny herald.

Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years

You are a lone voice my friend and no one is rushing to say 'what a good guy, what a great job he did'

Still Believin'
750
·
5.7K
·
about 17 years

So if de Jong got the job he probably wouldn't be able to do any more Sky commentary?

VOTE FOR FRED!!


Marquee
2.1K
·
8.2K
·
about 17 years

Anyway so RH already being lined up as technical director apparently - so now we can expect long ball at every level instead of just the All Whites

Marquee
3.7K
·
5.8K
·
about 17 years

NZ Football has gone through to many CEOs in a relativity short space of time, something seems to stink about the place.Its not as if some of those who have left have  not been  of good quality.Sadly few seem to be questioning why this is happening.

Marquee
1.2K
·
5.5K
·
over 13 years

The current board (as at May, 2013) of New Zealand Football is: Frank van Hattum (Chairman), Bill Moran (Deputy Chairman), Mark Aspden, Paul Cochrane, Martin Fenwick, Paula Kearns, Dougal McGowan, Shelley McMeeken (co-opted) and Mike Anderson (co-opted).

Still Believin'
750
·
5.7K
·
about 17 years
james dean wrote:

Anyway so RH already being lined up as technical director apparently - so now we can expect long ball at every level instead of just the All Whites


Come on JD, that sounds like Herbert bashing just for the sake of it.
So I take it you believe that Fred de Jong is currently responsible for the choice of tactics by all NZ rep teams? If not, what are you worried about?
And you are also ignoring the rather exciting possibility of getting a new All Whites coach.



Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years
ballane wrote:

NZ Football has gone through to many CEOs in a relativity short space of time, something seems to stink about the place.Its not as if some of those who have left have  not been  of good quality.Sadly few seem to be questioning why this is happening.

JV is. With the inside knowledge he has he's pointing the finger at the CEO's.

Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years
Jeff Vader wrote:

You are a lone voice my friend and no one is rushing to say 'what a good guy, what a great job he did'

So you only quote the papers when it suits you JV.

.http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8887938/NZFs-CEO-turnover-puts-spotlight-on-chairman

Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years

Thank you for that link and re-enforcing my point

Cock
2.7K
·
16K
·
over 14 years
nightz wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

You are a lone voice my friend and no one is rushing to say 'what a good guy, what a great job he did'

So you only quote the papers when it suits you JV.

.http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8887938/NZFs-CEO-turnover-puts-spotlight-on-chairman

Actually let's assume I am wrong for a moment.
Please post the links to all the articles of everyone saying 'please don't go, what a great job you were doing Grant'
Let's go from there shall we?
TV
On probation
250
·
4.2K
·
over 13 years
Jeff Vader wrote:
nightz wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

You are a lone voice my friend and no one is rushing to say 'what a good guy, what a great job he did'

So you only quote the papers when it suits you JV.

.http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8887938/NZFs-CEO-turnover-puts-spotlight-on-chairman

Actually let's assume I am wrong for a moment.

Please post the links to all the articles of everyone saying 'please don't go, what a great job you were doing Grant'

Let's go from there shall we?


Zzzzzzzz
Moar stars
2K
·
4.7K
·
almost 12 years

Wake up Jeff !

Starting XI
24
·
3K
·
about 17 years
TV wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:
nightz wrote:
Jeff Vader wrote:

You are a lone voice my friend and no one is rushing to say 'what a good guy, what a great job he did'

So you only quote the papers when it suits you JV.

.http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/8887938/NZFs-CEO-turnover-puts-spotlight-on-chairman

Actually let's assume I am wrong for a moment.

Please post the links to all the articles of everyone saying 'please don't go, what a great job you were doing Grant'

Let's go from there shall we?


Zzzzzzzz

Better to zzzz than bang your head against the wall TV. JV cant even recall what he's posted and just contradicts himself all the time.

Move over and I''ll join you zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Moar stars
2K
·
4.7K
·
almost 12 years

Can I get in ??

ZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

You’ll need an account to join the conversation!

Sign in Sign up