All Whites v Northern Ireland | Sat 3rd June | 6:45am | Belfast | SS2

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Just booking flights from London in the next few days. Keen to see if there was an away zone or where people are sitting?

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no dedicated kiwi area.  I thin we'll be all mixed up with the Irish.  May be possible to migrate together though.

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Just made this the match thread.

Was hoping to make a overnight trip to this as I would have been in France, but couldn't get flights to work. 

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2ndBest wrote:

Just made this the match thread.

Was hoping to make a overnight trip to this as I would have been in France, but couldn't get flights to work. 

#notarealfan
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Ha. The only flight I could get would land 90 minutes before kickoff. There was no way I was trusting EasyJet to get me there on time. 

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Jetstar but run by the the cast of The only way is Essex.  Good call.

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This game is at 6.45am NZT.

Appiah without the pace
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I should have learnt by now never to trust FIFA website.

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Marto wrote:

no dedicated kiwi area.  I thin we'll be all mixed up with the Irish.  May be possible to migrate together though.

won't be an issue, actually can be lots more fun when you are in with the home fans - I think most are just amazed you have made the effort and you don't care too much about the All Blacks

When I was at the Wales game in 2007 the biggest hassle we got was in the pub beforehand because our flag had a Union Jack on it (It was in Wrexham which is quite strong on Welsh independence) but the guys mates told him to stop being such a pillock and bought us all a round!

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Two New Zealanders have played for Northern Ireland in the past: George Moorhead (born in Christchurch) when Northern Ireland ("Ireland" 1922-1950) was the only recognized team in the 1920's and Billy Walsh (immigrated here after his British playing career) who played for both Northern Ireland and the Republic in the 1940's.

According to Roy Pilott, former Deputy Editor of the Waikato Times:

"The first player from New Zealand to appear in the Football League was Northern Ireland international George "Barney" Moorhead. who played in the 1920s... he had left this country as a two-year-old."

Moorhead was born in 1895 in Christchurch and played in England for Southampton and then Brighton & Hove Albion.

A colourful character: see this biographical site for Northern Ireland internationals:

- Hall of Fame - By Club - By Birth Place -
- 9 November 2008

(From:

http://nifootball.blogspot.com/2008/11/george-barney-moorhead.html

George "Barney" Moorhead

Name: George Moorhead
Born: 27 May 1895, Christchurch (New Zealand)
Died: 1976, Lurgan
Position: Centre-Half

Representative Honours: Ireland: 4 Full Caps (1923-1929); Irish League: 9 Caps (1924-1928).
Club Honours: (with Linfield) Irish League Champion; Irish Cup Winner 1922/23; Runner-Up 1925/26; Co. Antrim Shield Winner 1922/23, 1928/29; City Cup Winner; Gold Cup Winner.

Club Career:
Teams.............. --Seasons-- Signed League FACup
Glenavon
Royal Ulster Rifles
Southampton........20/21.............9/ 0 .4/ 0
Brighton & Hove Alb22/23.............1/ 0
Linfield ........................ 1922
Glenavon
Linfield
Heart of Midlothian .................. 0/ 0

Biography:
One of the biggest names in the Irish League during the 1920s, George "Barney" Moorhead won four Ireland caps despite being born in New Zealand. Raised in Lurgan from the age of two, he worked as a ticket collector at Lurgan railway station until the age of 70.

Moorhead served with The Royal Irish Rifles during the Great War, during which time he played with the regimental team. With hostilities over he joined Southampton but found himself suspended for a year due to an "irregularity covering amateurs". When the suspension expired he joined Brighton but returned to Ireland within a few months.

Signed by Linfield in 1922, Moorhead was to become one of their all-time greats. Sadly the Blues were suffering a hangover from their 1921/21 clean-sweep campaign and struggled to reach those heights through Moorhead's nine year association with the club. He won a solitary Irish Cup winner's medal, Glentoran defeated 2-0 in the 1923 Final. For the 1930 Final he reportedly asked to be left out of the side in favour of Jack Jones.

An extremely consistent performer, Moorhead seldom missed a match despite walking from his Lurgan home to Windsor Park on match days in what he referred to as "a morning dander". Capped four times, three against Scotland, it was felt he was deserving of more international recognition. In addition Moorhead played nine times at inter-league level, only once avoiding defeat.

Ireland Cap Details:
03-03-1923 Scotland H L 0-1 BC
21-02-1928 France.. A L 0-4 FR
25-02-1928 Scotland A W 1-0 BC
23-02-1929 Scotland H L 3-7 BC
Summary: 4/0. Won 1, Drew 0, Lost 3.

Billy Walsh: Probably the most high-profile player to immigrate to NZ - former Man City and Ireland midfielder who came out around the same time as Ken Armstrong in the 1950's:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Walsh_(Irish_footballer)

"Between 1944 and 1948 Walsh played six times for the IFA XI [Northern Ireland]. On 9 September 1944 he played for the IFA XI in an 8–4 defeat against a Combined Services XI at Windsor Park. This team was basically a Great Britain XI and featured, among others, Matt Busby, Stanley Matthews, Tommy Lawton and Stan Mortensen. [10] Walsh helped the IFA XI gain some respectable results, including a 2–0 win against Scotland on 4 October 1947, a 2–2 draw with England at Goodison Park on 5 November 1947 and a 2–0 win against Wales on 10 March 1948."

Played for Eastern Suburbs and the Auckland rep team in NZ, including a famous 3-0 thrashing of Austrian champs FK Austria, the best Austrian team of the twentieth century, in 1957:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/art...

He turned out for NZ in 1961 in an unofficial match vs. an English FA XI.

Former Manchester City player 1938 - 1950 and international for both Republic and Northern Ireland.

A very high-profile player, he played for the Republic side that defeated England 2-0 at Goodison Park in 1949, becoming the first non-British team to beat England at home:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/England_v_Ireland_(19...

Video of Ireland v England 1949:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gY5i1NBBxzU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1b-SHCUSP0

English embarrassment lead to propaganda for decades that the defeat vs. Hungary in 1953 was "the first defeat on home soil." Most records have been corrected now.

Billy Walsh's ashes are interred at the Garden of Remembrance at the City of Manchester Stadium.

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Marto wrote:

no dedicated kiwi area.  I thin we'll be all mixed up with the Irish.  May be possible to migrate together though.

won't be an issue, actually can be lots more fun when you are in with the home fans - I think most are just amazed you have made the effort and you don't care too much about the All Blacks

When I was at the Wales game in 2007 the biggest hassle we got was in the pub beforehand because our flag had a Union Jack on it (It was in Wrexham which is quite strong on Welsh independence) but the guys mates told him to stop being such a pillock and bought us all a round!

Good luck wearing a Union Jack (albeit on our flag) in Northern Ireland - when you try it, let me know how you get on.......

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Rusty Dunks wrote:

Marto wrote:

no dedicated kiwi area.  I thin we'll be all mixed up with the Irish.  May be possible to migrate together though.

won't be an issue, actually can be lots more fun when you are in with the home fans - I think most are just amazed you have made the effort and you don't care too much about the All Blacks

When I was at the Wales game in 2007 the biggest hassle we got was in the pub beforehand because our flag had a Union Jack on it (It was in Wrexham which is quite strong on Welsh independence) but the guys mates told him to stop being such a pillock and bought us all a round!

Good luck wearing a Union Jack (albeit on our flag) in Northern Ireland - when you try it, let me know how you get on.......

You'd be alright in the ground as it's the NZ flag and the Northern Ireland football fans are big on respect of others (they are doing a good job of ridding the International games of the sectarian bullshark), but if you're drinking in Belfast afterwards I'd definitely hide it, also be careful if asked what school you went to or who you prefer out of Rangers and Celtic!

Appiah without the pace
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The Irish Football Association and Ticketmaster have given All Whites fans the chance to sit together and cheer on Anthony Hudson’s team as they look to build on the momentum from qualifying to the final stage of the OFC qualifying for the FIFA World Cup.

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/fans-called-to-rally-f...

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Marto wrote:

no dedicated kiwi area.  I thin we'll be all mixed up with the Irish.  May be possible to migrate together though.

won't be an issue, actually can be lots more fun when you are in with the home fans - I think most are just amazed you have made the effort and you don't care too much about the All Blacks

When I was at the Wales game in 2007 the biggest hassle we got was in the pub beforehand because our flag had a Union Jack on it (It was in Wrexham which is quite strong on Welsh independence) but the guys mates told him to stop being such a pillock and bought us all a round!

I was there, remember that, first game of sport in my Euro OE!!!  I really hope the NI game brings a result similar to that one.

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2ndBest wrote:

Ha. The only flight I could get would land 90 minutes before kickoff. There was no way I was trusting EasyJet to get me there on time. 

BA?

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2ndBest wrote:

The Irish Football Association and Ticketmaster have given All Whites fans the chance to sit together and cheer on Anthony Hudson’s team as they look to build on the momentum from qualifying to the final stage of the OFC qualifying for the FIFA World Cup.

http://www.nzfootball.co.nz/fans-called-to-rally-f...

Wish this had happened earlier.  My tickets arrived last week   :-(

I also note for those of us in the UK it directs you to the normal ticketing page with no tickets available in the south stand.

WeeNix
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Is this going to be on sky?

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bennie99 wrote:

Is this going to be on sky?

I'm hearing it is, on the official All Whites Facebook page they say it will be at least.

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Shark, is Roy Carroll still playing? He must be about 83 by now

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Shark, is Roy Carroll still playing? He must be about 83 by now

Younger than Shay Given and similar age to Buffon.

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Leggy wrote:

Shark, is Roy Carroll still playing? He must be about 83 by now

Younger than Shay Given and similar age to Buffon.

Yeah i looked it up after I posted that and saw he's 39. I would have guessed mid 40s though, so he wasn't as old as I thought. Feels like he's been around forever
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Chuffed to see Josh Magennis from my team Charlton included in the N. Ireland squad.

Former Aberdeen and Kilmarnock striker.

Nearly 200 appearances in the Scottish Premier League.

He's a tall (6 ft 2 in) but quick target man.

Was a goalie until aged 18 when his ability up front was discovered.

He was once on the bench as a goalie for Cardiff vs. Liverpool in a League Cup tie.

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"Former All White Noel Barkley admits he doesn’t know who he’ll be supporting this Saturday morning (NZ time) when the All Whites take on World No 26 Northern Ireland at Windsor Park in Belfast. The Chief Executive of the Football Foundation,..."

My question: What is the Football Foundation?

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Google is your friend:

"The Foundation was created initially with responsibility for managing the $4 million given to New Zealand Football for qualifying for the 2010 World Cup. These FIFA qualification funds are the foundation to which New Zealand football supporters and charitable donors can add their own contributions.

The Football Foundation is partnering with skilled advisors to provide investment advice and expertise as well as general day-to-day management of the Fund account."

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For those of us going, any ideas for pre/post match drinks?

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I miss watching the All Whites live : (

Great to have a consistant run of games to watch with the u20's as well. U17's can't be too far away either.

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/40100802

Legend
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http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/nz-teams/93267254/all-whites-have-done-their-homework-on-northern-ireland

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MetalLegNZ wrote:

I miss watching the All Whites live : (

Great to have a consistant run of games to watch with the u20's as well. U17's can't be too far away either.

Game is live in NZ on Sky Sport2

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Mexico beat Ireland 3-1 today in their pre Confeds game.

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it's a beautiful day here in Belfast, temp in the late teens.  Perfect for the game in two hours.  C'mon you Whites!

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what pub you mate? Glorious day! 

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Appiah without the pace
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http://www.vipleague.co/football/481574/3/northern-ireland-vs-new-zealand-live-stream-online.html

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good start. Looking to play across the back with some nice interplay up top.

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bahahaha that was terrible defending

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Marinovic could have done a lot more in that goal

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Argie96 wrote:

Marinovic could have done a lot more in that goal

so could of the 3 defenders who stood there not defending

All Whites v Northern Ireland | Sat 3rd June | 6:45am | Belfast | SS2

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