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2019 International Friendlies

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Happy New Year!

Will the All Whites get any games in the 2nd year of coach Schmid's reign?

Could any of the senior AWs pick him out of a crowd of middle aged Swiss men, in Zurich?

Did someone remember to leave the fax machine on over the holiday break?

I see the first FIFA window is 18-26th March.

Looks like the full MLS draw is not out yet, but at this early stage only Tuiloma's Portland have a game (18th March), scheduled over that March window.

https://us.soccerway.com/national/united-states/ml...

So possible that the MLS contingent could be available - if (a big IF), NZF secure a game or two for their national men's team. 

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This thread/topic is a sad place. I'm heading back over to the Nix section where I wont be so depressed.

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I would look to March and November as the only realistic windows for All Whites activity this year, not that there's really any urgency for the All Whites to play at all. 

This year (the year after a World Cup) has tended to be the quietest in the four-year cycle (3 games in 2015; 3 in 2011; 6 in 2007, but 3 were OFC qualifiers played very early).

Resources will be stretched in June, with the U-20 Men's World Cup and Women's World Cup on, and I can't see NZ Football needlessly disturbing All Whites players' off-seasons given they have done so the past three years (OFC Nations Cup 2016, Confederations Cup 2017, India tournament 2018) and will ideally be doing so the next three (Nations Cup 2020, Confederations Cup 2021, World Cup prep 2022).

September and October will clash (albeit not directly) with the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament, which runs from September 21 to October 6 in Fiji.

Interim CEO Andrew Pragnell's end-of-year letter said "we hope to see the All Whites back in action early in 2019" which would seem a dumb thing to include if NZF isn't actively seeking a game in March.

Come November, Schmid should* have an in-depth knowledge of the current U23 crop, who he can then integrate with senior players (he visited around Europe in April and November, so they should recognise him) as the three-year run to the 2022 World Cup begins in earnest.

(*Should, because the timing of the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament means a clash with pro and college commitments.)

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I would look to March and November as the only realistic windows for All Whites activity this year, not that there's really any urgency for the All Whites to play at all. 

This year (the year after a World Cup) has tended to be the quietest in the four-year cycle (3 games in 2015; 3 in 2011; 6 in 2007, but 3 were OFC qualifiers played very early).

Resources will be stretched in June, with the U-20 Men's World Cup and Women's World Cup on, and I can't see NZ Football needlessly disturbing All Whites players' off-seasons given they have done so the past three years (OFC Nations Cup 2016, Confederations Cup 2017, India tournament 2018) and will ideally be doing so the next three (Nations Cup 2020, Confederations Cup 2021, World Cup prep 2022).

September and October will clash (albeit not directly) with the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament, which runs from September 21 to October 6 in Fiji.

Interim CEO Andrew Pragnell's end-of-year letter said "we hope to see the All Whites back in action early in 2019" which would seem a dumb thing to include if NZF isn't actively seeking a game in March.

Come November, Schmid should* have an in-depth knowledge of the current U23 crop, who he can then integrate with senior players (he visited around Europe in April and November, so they should recognise him) as the three-year run to the 2022 World Cup begins in earnest.

(*Should, because the timing of the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament means a clash with pro and college commitments.)

Gracias for the update Andrew. I'll take that as gospel then, that the AWs have 1 or more games in the March window (itch says Oztraylia). Your reputation as an esteemed journalist is on the line!!

Do disagree however that the senior player's off seasons, were interrupted by the India tourney in 2018. The only AW in India last year, who featured against Peru was Lewis - and he's hardly played the last 18 mths. None of the senior core went to the sub continent. All the big name players in Europe coming off 40-50 game club seasons, can only dream of two full off seasons - which is what you are suggesting the senior AW players will get.

Only Steven Old (who's not a current AW), and at a pinch Wood would get close to playing that number of games in a club season. Most of the Kiwi guys in Europe are getting splinters or are injured. Probably enjoy a few games for the national side, post the club season.

Anyway wasn't that tourney an all expenses paid effort from the India FA? Is it being repeated in 2019? 

If so and NZ is invited again, a nice free bonus build up for Schmid, preceding the Sept-Oct OFC Olympic qualifying tournament. 

Pick a bunch of U23 guys for hot/humid India (with say 3 fresh older pros who like the idea of going to Tokyo next year), as a handy dress rehearsal for PNG. 

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I don't think the Indian games would be repeated as it was there build up to the Asian Cup UAE 2019. 

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coochiee wrote:

I would look to March and November as the only realistic windows for All Whites activity this year, not that there's really any urgency for the All Whites to play at all. 

This year (the year after a World Cup) has tended to be the quietest in the four-year cycle (3 games in 2015; 3 in 2011; 6 in 2007, but 3 were OFC qualifiers played very early).

Resources will be stretched in June, with the U-20 Men's World Cup and Women's World Cup on, and I can't see NZ Football needlessly disturbing All Whites players' off-seasons given they have done so the past three years (OFC Nations Cup 2016, Confederations Cup 2017, India tournament 2018) and will ideally be doing so the next three (Nations Cup 2020, Confederations Cup 2021, World Cup prep 2022).

September and October will clash (albeit not directly) with the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament, which runs from September 21 to October 6 in Fiji.

Interim CEO Andrew Pragnell's end-of-year letter said "we hope to see the All Whites back in action early in 2019" which would seem a dumb thing to include if NZF isn't actively seeking a game in March.

Come November, Schmid should* have an in-depth knowledge of the current U23 crop, who he can then integrate with senior players (he visited around Europe in April and November, so they should recognise him) as the three-year run to the 2022 World Cup begins in earnest.

(*Should, because the timing of the OFC Olympic qualifying tournament means a clash with pro and college commitments.)

Gracias for the update Andrew. I'll take that as gospel then, that the AWs have 1 or more games in the March window (itch says Oztraylia). Your reputation as an esteemed journalist is on the line!!

Do disagree however that the senior player's off seasons, were interrupted by the India tourney in 2018. The only AW in India last year, who featured against Peru was Lewis - and he's hardly played the last 18 mths. None of the senior core went to the sub continent. All the big name players in Europe coming off 40-50 game club seasons, can only dream of two full off seasons - which is what you are suggesting the senior AW players will get.

Only Steven Old (who's not a current AW), and at a pinch Wood would get close to playing that number of games in a club season. Most of the Kiwi guys in Europe are getting splinters or are injured. Probably enjoy a few games for the national side, post the club season.

Anyway wasn't that tourney an all expenses paid effort from the India FA? Is it being repeated in 2019? 

If so and NZ is invited again, a nice free bonus build up for Schmid, preceding the Sept-Oct OFC Olympic qualifying tournament. 

Pick a bunch of U23 guys for hot/humid India (with say 3 fresh older pros who like the idea of going to Tokyo next year), as a handy dress rehearsal for PNG. 

I believe there may be other plans in the works for the U-23 team to have a proper buildup. (The Pacific Games in July have curiously been included on NZ Football's 2019 competitions calendar)

Players getting a proper off-season in one of the two years it's possible is definitely a minor factor (in fact, it may not even come into NZF's thinking). It would be more about A-League players, who tend to have May/early June off then go back to training in late June/July, than European-based pros, as it's more of a disruption to them.

Please don't hold me to them playing in March - if I were in charge it wouldn't even be on the table! A new CEO is due in the next couple of weeks and it wouldn't be a shock if stopping everything non-essential was one of their first steps.

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What will also be interesting if post the Asian Cup, AFC announce any plans to setup a Nations League. 

UEFA has one, and also CONCACAF. 

CAF (Africa) have just announced their's is to commence in August this year. 

FYI their League A (top tier), comprises - Algeria, Burkina Faso, Cameroon, Cape Verde, DR Congo, Egypt, Ghana, Morocco, Mali, Nigeria, Senegal & Tunisia.  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019%E2%80%9321_CAF_...

Wouldn’t surprise if FIFA soon put some pressure on AFC, to setup one, and pressure them further, to include OFC as part of it.

Nothing may happen until next WC cycle, but potentially stands to be a bit of a game changer re regular games for AWs.

Apparently FIFA stand to make a truck load of cash, from the proposed Global Nations League 8 team final series - so cash strapped NZF would no doubt hope the costs of any extra AW games, are to be funded via FIFA.

However CONEMBOL are not so keen on the Nations League concept it seems, and are proposing the World Cup be moved onto a shorter two yearly cycle!!  Likes of Argentina, Brazil are probably missing the opportunity to play the big European nations in friendlies. Being only 10 countries in their Confed, they probably get a bit sick of just playing each other. Sorry latinos but UEFA don't care.

 https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/inter...

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Someone wake Fritz up, he has a job to do......in 10 months....

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Jeez that's a long way away!!!! Seriously, what are we going to do between now and then?

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In the same press release they said they're confident of announcing a game in March

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yay, we have a game, maybe 2! there'll be nothing at home though

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November. At least that should ensure the MLS players are available. 

So two years after playing Peru, a full strength side is assembled again!!

There is some quite humorous comments by Irish fans about the announcement of this game.

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coochiee wrote:

November. At least that should ensure the MLS players are available. 

So two years after playing Peru, a full strength side is assembled again!!

There is some quite humorous comments by Irish fans about the annouof this game.


Any examples of Irish comments?

Oi Oi Edgecumbe... lets have a clean sheet

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coochiee wrote:

November. At least that should ensure the MLS players are available. 

So two years after playing Peru, a full strength side is assembled again!!

There is some quite humorous comments by Irish fans about the annouof this game.


Any examples of Irish comments?

Hit the link in Piney’s tweet above. They are less than enthused playing no 112 in the world.

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Which is quite amusing consider how utterly sharke they are

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reg22 wrote:

Which is quite amusing consider how utterly sharke they are

Would love for us to steal a result there just to see them eat humble pie.

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Maybe is the Irish team really is poor at the moment, they'll recast their net and recall The Sheriff. :)

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