Australia get to play Lebanon in November, Would be good to play them as well.
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Australia get to play Lebanon in November, Would be good to play them as well.
Would seem strange if true. Australia play Lebanon in pool stages of Asia Cup in January 2019.
Be a bit odd to play them only 2 months prior.
Australia get to play Lebanon in November, Would be good to play them as well.
Would seem strange if true. Australia play Lebanon in pool stages of Asia Cup in January 2019.
Be a bit odd to play them only 2 months prior.
Australia get to play Lebanon in November, Would be good to play them as well.
Would seem strange if true. Australia play Lebanon in pool stages of Asia Cup in January 2019.
Be a bit odd to play them only 2 months prior.
Sorry you are correct. I had it wrong. Must have confused Jordan with Lebanon.
In which case yes you would hope NZF are reaching out to the Lebanese, for a game also in November. I note both South Korea and Lebanon will pay in Oz in that window.
However the Koreans have already locked in a 2nd game in Ubekistan, after Socceroos.
Something is seriously wrong when Fiji plays freindlies against Singapore etc and we have.....
Personally I think AWs playing friendlies in this Sept window, would be a bit pointless if it disrupted Nix’s pre season build up, and/or consisted of games against likes of Singapore or SI - who I believe Fiji are playing.
However would be hoping NZF are targeting some reasonable teams for games later this year - like Lebanon.
what build up? and what kiwis?
Ideal time I would say, we haven't even signed all our players and the quality of players in the sing team would have to be higher then the locals they are playing at the moment
Personally I think AWs playing friendlies in this Sept window, would be a bit pointless if it disrupted Nix’s pre season build up, and/or consisted of games against likes of Singapore or SI - who I believe Fiji are playing.
However would be hoping NZF are targeting some reasonable teams for games later this year - like Lebanon.
Europe's on a break for friendlies, season miles away, no competitive Nix game in sight, perfect time for a friendly.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Ask Rudan or Muscat. I’m sure losing a few players to an AWs game now for a week, wouldn’t be ideal.
Don’t think even Socceroos have organised a game for this FIFA window, and they have January’s Asian Cup to prepare for.
Besides for moment NZF have more urgent problems to deal with - like an internal review, plus new CEO and FFs coach.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
There isn't a route to qualify for EUROs through the Nations League (well, not a direct one). Where it comes in is for the last four spots, where the play-offs for those aren't organised on the basis on EURO qualifying groups, but on the basis of non-qualified teams across the four divisions of the Nations League.
I suspect the way this may develop is that a lot of lower-to-middling nations could deliberately tank the Nations League to give themselves a decent chance to get to EUROs through the play-off, while the bigger teams simply won't care as there's basically nothing at stake for them in this. The whole concept really works best for the small nations (your Liechtensteins/San Marinos/Andorras) as they'll finally get a chance to play games at their kind of level, and maybe get some wins.
I'm sorry, but that's an absolutely idiotic analysis. The European Nations League has already turned into a round of glorified friendlies, and it'll only get worse. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is canned in the next 4-5 years.
I'm sorry, but that's an absolutely idiotic analysis. The European Nations League has already turned into a round of glorified friendlies, and it'll only get worse. Wouldn't be surprised if the whole thing is canned in the next 4-5 years.
It’s very early days, and don’t forget the money that apparently FIFA have sourced to finance a Global Nations League.
No can’t see it ever over shadowing a World Cup, big Euro clubs will probably hate it, players will be indifferent - but German FA, English FA etc etc will be licking their lips at some of the reported cash on offer.
It will become a much better version of Confeds Cup - and if it gives the football minnows of the world like AWs some meaningful games, that’s great. I’d rather have this and just stay with a 32 team high quality WC.
So no friendly's lined up for Oct and Nov?.
Something is seriously wrong when Fiji plays freindlies against Singapore etc and we have.....
Would be good if the AW's did use these windows and play whoever is available.
Would give Schmid a chance to look at NZ and A-League based players.
Fiji, the Solomons, PNG etc. have not proven not be easy-beats for us in recent years.
New Caledonia have a striker (Gope-Fenepej) who played Ligue 1 in France (and against PSG in the Cup) last season.
The big new talent on the Pacific scene is Scott Wara of Stoke City who debuted for Fiji on the weekend in their 1-1 draw with the Solomons.
18 year-old centre-back promoted to Stoke's reserve side this season after impressing for the youth team last season.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/scott-wara/profil/sp...
Impressed Mark Hughes last season who had him training with the first team.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
There isn't a route to qualify for EUROs through the Nations League (well, not a direct one). Where it comes in is for the last four spots, where the play-offs for those aren't organised on the basis on EURO qualifying groups, but on the basis of non-qualified teams across the four divisions of the Nations League.
I suspect the way this may develop is that a lot of lower-to-middling nations could deliberately tank the Nations League to give themselves a decent chance to get to EUROs through the play-off, while the bigger teams simply won't care as there's basically nothing at stake for them in this. The whole concept really works best for the small nations (your Liechtensteins/San Marinos/Andorras) as they'll finally get a chance to play games at their kind of level, and maybe get some wins.
I don't think that this will happen because it's the winners of each of the four groups in each league (if not already qualified for the Euros through playing Euro qualifiers) who play eachother to determine the one qualifier for the Euros from each league.
So winning your group does become important for all teams.
There is also relegation for the last team in each group (except of course League D) and you can be sure pride will mean no nation wants to be relegated.
I'm a Netherlands supporter - and fate has decreed that Holland are in a group with Germany and France. I guarantee that Holland supporters want to top that group very badly - and an ideal world for us would see Germany relegated...
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
There isn't a route to qualify for EUROs through the Nations League (well, not a direct one). Where it comes in is for the last four spots, where the play-offs for those aren't organised on the basis on EURO qualifying groups, but on the basis of non-qualified teams across the four divisions of the Nations League.
I suspect the way this may develop is that a lot of lower-to-middling nations could deliberately tank the Nations League to give themselves a decent chance to get to EUROs through the play-off, while the bigger teams simply won't care as there's basically nothing at stake for them in this. The whole concept really works best for the small nations (your Liechtensteins/San Marinos/Andorras) as they'll finally get a chance to play games at their kind of level, and maybe get some wins.
I don't think that this will happen because it's the winners of each of the four groups in each league (if not already qualified for the Euros through playing Euro qualifiers) who play eachother to determine the one qualifier for the Euros from each league.
So winning your group does become important for all teams...
But that's a moot point, since the chances are most of the winners (if not all) of groups in Divisions 1 and 2 will qualify for the EURO anyway through the normal qualifying path. The last four spots in the EUROs have to be filled through the Nations League and this won't be able to happen through involvement of group winners only (i.e. too many of them would have already qualified). The only advantage you get as a group winnerwho didn't qualify through the normal qualifying stage is that you can't have a team from a higher division in your playoff.
So for those teams, especially in Divisions 1 and 2, for whom qualifying through the normal process is not guaranteed, underperforming in the Nations League to get a chance to get into a playoff for EUROs with teams from Divisions 2 and 3 for example, is a clear incentive.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
There isn't a route to qualify for EUROs through the Nations League (well, not a direct one). Where it comes in is for the last four spots, where the play-offs for those aren't organised on the basis on EURO qualifying groups, but on the basis of non-qualified teams across the four divisions of the Nations League.
I suspect the way this may develop is that a lot of lower-to-middling nations could deliberately tank the Nations League to give themselves a decent chance to get to EUROs through the play-off, while the bigger teams simply won't care as there's basically nothing at stake for them in this. The whole concept really works best for the small nations (your Liechtensteins/San Marinos/Andorras) as they'll finally get a chance to play games at their kind of level, and maybe get some wins.
I don't think that this will happen because it's the winners of each of the four groups in each league (if not already qualified for the Euros through playing Euro qualifiers) who play eachother to determine the one qualifier for the Euros from each league.
So winning your group does become important for all teams...
But that's a moot point, since the chances are most of the winners (if not all) of groups in Divisions 1 and 2 will qualify for the EURO anyway through the normal qualifying path. The last four spots in the EUROs have to be filled through the Nations League and this won't be able to happen through involvement of group winners only (i.e. too many of them would have already qualified). The only advantage you get as a group winnerwho didn't qualify through the normal qualifying stage is that you can't have a team from a higher division in your playoff.
So for those teams, especially in Divisions 1 and 2, for whom qualifying through the normal process is not guaranteed, underperforming in the Nations League to get a chance to get into a playoff for EUROs with teams from Divisions 2 and 3 for example, is a clear incentive.
Nations League also counts towards seedings for the Euro qualifiers, which is a pretty big incentive for many teams. And it takes away the 'gaming' of the World Ranking systems that some countries were doing for better seedings.
If Germany lost all three games in the Nations League for example, they could end up a second seed for qualifiers, then get a REALLY killer qualifying group. Ok, then could get a second chance etc, but not a risk most would want to take.
Tanking your Nations League division has no advantage for Euro 2020 qualifying whatsoever. If you got relegated though, it could get you in an easier Nations League division for future tournaments. If you want to play a REALLY long game... But the second chance system always takes teams higher in their division ahead of lower teams in that division, so I don't see the advantage of finishing last.
Something is seriously wrong when Fiji plays freindlies against Singapore etc and we have.....
Would be good if the AW's did use these windows and play whoever is available.
Would give Schmid a chance to look at NZ and A-League based players.
Fiji, the Solomons, PNG etc. have not proven not be easy-beats for us in recent years.
New Caledonia have a striker (Gope-Fenepej) who played Ligue 1 in France (and against PSG in the Cup) last season.
The big new talent on the Pacific scene is Scott Wara of Stoke City who debuted for Fiji on the weekend in their 1-1 draw with the Solomons.
18 year-old centre-back promoted to Stoke's reserve side this season after impressing for the youth team last season.
https://www.transfermarkt.com/scott-wara/profil/sp...
Impressed Mark Hughes last season who had him training with the first team.
Think Schmid has now had enough time to assess the A League and Handy Prem type players - after Canada game and tourney in India. It’s now coming up to a year since most of the first choice players last played for the AWs (Peru games). Time to get the gang back together for a quality friendly or two and meet coach Schmid. Sorry see little value in playing any of the Island teams - but as usual the NZF beggars can’t be choosers.
Pretty sure Europe is starting their new UEFA Nations League so not friendlies.
Combination of Nations League and friendlies, as a lot of Nations Groups have only 3 teams. Although judging by some of the selections and late injury withdrawals, the Nations League looks like it'll basically be glorified friendlies.
The Nations league is an attempt to put some meaning into friendlies and there is a route to qualify for the Euro Champs through them (and also to ensure the big countries play each other more and generate more money) The groups that only have 3 are expected to organise friendlies against others that don't have games
There isn't a route to qualify for EUROs through the Nations League (well, not a direct one). Where it comes in is for the last four spots, where the play-offs for those aren't organised on the basis on EURO qualifying groups, but on the basis of non-qualified teams across the four divisions of the Nations League.
I suspect the way this may develop is that a lot of lower-to-middling nations could deliberately tank the Nations League to give themselves a decent chance to get to EUROs through the play-off, while the bigger teams simply won't care as there's basically nothing at stake for them in this. The whole concept really works best for the small nations (your Liechtensteins/San Marinos/Andorras) as they'll finally get a chance to play games at their kind of level, and maybe get some wins.
I don't think that this will happen because it's the winners of each of the four groups in each league (if not already qualified for the Euros through playing Euro qualifiers) who play eachother to determine the one qualifier for the Euros from each league.
So winning your group does become important for all teams...
But that's a moot point, since the chances are most of the winners (if not all) of groups in Divisions 1 and 2 will qualify for the EURO anyway through the normal qualifying path. The last four spots in the EUROs have to be filled through the Nations League and this won't be able to happen through involvement of group winners only (i.e. too many of them would have already qualified). The only advantage you get as a group winnerwho didn't qualify through the normal qualifying stage is that you can't have a team from a higher division in your playoff.
So for those teams, especially in Divisions 1 and 2, for whom qualifying through the normal process is not guaranteed, underperforming in the Nations League to get a chance to get into a playoff for EUROs with teams from Divisions 2 and 3 for example, is a clear incentive.
Nations League also counts towards seedings for the Euro qualifiers, which is a pretty big incentive for many teams. And it takes away the 'gaming' of the World Ranking systems that some countries were doing for better seedings.
If Germany lost all three games in the Nations League for example, they could end up a second seed for qualifiers, then get a REALLY killer qualifying group. Ok, then could get a second chance etc, but not a risk most would want to take.
Tanking your Nations League division has no advantage for Euro 2020 qualifying whatsoever. If you got relegated though, it could get you in an easier Nations League division for future tournaments. If you want to play a REALLY long game... But the second chance system always takes teams higher in their division ahead of lower teams in that division, so I don't see the advantage of finishing last.
For the seeding in qualifying, yes in theory, but in practice, with 10 qualifying groups, the seedings will largely reflect the divisions, so it's a pretty empty incentive for most. Seedings for EURO were always based on UEFA rankings before anyway so it's not as radical change as it seems.
As for tanking, like I said , there's really no incentive for middling teams to perform since you can get a decent second chance for qualifying through playoffs, since each division has to send a team to the EURO.
I hate long quote threads, so separating out.
Agree that for the big teams they may not be overly bothered by it all. Interestingly, the incentives aren't necessarily on winning their group of 3, but they'll have targets of where they'd like to finish, as I see it:
In Div 1, you just want to avoid being ranked in the bottom 2 nations out of 12, to get a top seeding.
For teams in Div 2, they will definitely be aiming to finish in the top 8 out of 12 to get a second seeding. Probably would like to be reasonable though to ensure they get the 'second chance' qualifying shot if needed. (here we've got Bosnia, Russia, Northern Ireland, Turkey etc who I assume will be trying for every chance they get to qualify).
Div 3 is where it gets crucial to go well. Here we have Scotland, Serbia, Greece, Lithuania etc... Finishing top 6 out of 12 gets you a third seed in Euros, otherwise you are fourth seed.. They are also going to be trying big time to finish top of their sections to win ensure that second chance at getting through.
Div 4 obviously you get the minnows playing for their lives against each other.
So I suppose one issue there as I think it through, is the games they are wanting to promote as the big games, in Div 1, they probably need one draw out of two games to get what their incentive is.
But actually, given Scotland hasn't qualified in anything forever, I have proposed previously that they just don't bother trying this time, get relegated, then get relegated to Div 4 to try qualify in future if system remains the same. Will probably fail there too anyway though.
But the thing is you don't have to win your group in the Nations League to be in the playoff for the EURO. Because most teams from Divisons 1 and 2, and some from Division 3, will already have qualified through the qualifying groups, so there won't be enough group winners to do the playoffs in each division. And this is what potentially gives you an easier ride to the EURO through the playoffs if you're a lower-middling team. The only thing that winning the group guarantees is that you can't have teams from the higher division in your playoff.
This also potentially leads to situations where middling teams, if they have a poor start to the qualifying, assess that the playoff gives them a better chance to qualify. So you get the double whammy of watered down competitions.
The fundamental problem here is that UEFA have married the qualifying with the Nations League, but not in a meaningful way. It really either needed to be the only qualifying pathway, or have no relation to the EURO qualifying at all, and basically serve as a reasonably competitive environment allowing teams to rebuild/try new things without risking too much. I suspect that the latter is how the big teams will eventually approach it, but at the moment it's a bit messy, and offers very uneven incentives or disincentives across both Nations League and EURO qualifying formats.
Correct, you don't have to win your Nations League group to be in the second chance Euro playoff thing (not sure the official name). I never mentioned group winners... I agree with you that it's not overly important to win your group for a lot.
Ok, for example, for Serbia/Scotland in Division 3. If they finish in the bottom half of Division 3, they will be a fourth seed for the Euro qualifying groups. And every chance they may/probably also miss out on this second chance route. Whereas, if they go win both their Nation League games, they get a third seed draw for the Euro qualifying, and also guarantee a second chance route if that falls down. That is a huge incentive.
Remember there's big teams that often don't qualify from Europe to big comps each time. The incentives are different for each division. Certainly a lot will qualify out of Div 1/2 already, and will get that chance through that. But if I'm a manager in Group 2 (god forbid), I'm not thinking, oh we don't need to win these games, because if we don't go well in our group, Bosnia/Turkey etc will definitely qualify, and then we're guaranteed a second chance. They need to finish, not high necessarily, but good enough to get that.
I agree it's messy. 3 team groups don't create much of an excitement around the group either. They haven't sold it.
But, I think fundamentally better than just having the odd 'friendlies' between things.
Correct, you don't have to win your Nations League group to be in the second chance Euro playoff thing (not sure the official name). I never mentioned group winners... I agree with you that it's not overly important to win your group for a lot.
Yep, sorry, I see that it was Big Pete who mentioned that and not you.
But the thing is you don't have to win your group in the Nations League to be in the playoff for the EURO. Because most teams from Divisons 1 and 2, and some from Division 3, will already have qualified through the qualifying groups, so there won't be enough group winners to do the playoffs in each division. And this is what potentially gives you an easier ride to the EURO through the playoffs if you're a lower-middling team. The only thing that winning the group guarantees is that you can't have teams from the higher division in your playoff.
This also potentially leads to situations where middling teams, if they have a poor start to the qualifying, assess that the playoff gives them a better chance to qualify. So you get the double whammy of watered down competitions.
The fundamental problem here is that UEFA have married the qualifying with the Nations League, but not in a meaningful way. It really either needed to be the only qualifying pathway, or have no relation to the EURO qualifying at all, and basically serve as a reasonably competitive environment allowing teams to rebuild/try new things without risking too much. I suspect that the latter is how the big teams will eventually approach it, but at the moment it's a bit messy, and offers very uneven incentives or disincentives across both Nations League and EURO qualifying formats.
You've hit the nail on the head there El Grapi.
It's not clear enough how success in the Nations League adds up to anything meaningful.
The relationship with Euro qualifying seems to me the main grey area.
For League A teams, no doubt winning your group and qualifying for the Nations League Finals carries some prestige.
It's also very meaningful financially with large cash payouts depending on which league division a country is in and, for League A, placing in groups has a large financial incentive:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018%E2%80%9319_UEFA...
How much the financial incentive is meaningful to players as opposed to federations is debatable.
"In addition, the group winners of each league will receive the following bonus fees:
- League A group winners: €1,500,000
- League B group winners: €1,000,000
- League C group winners: €750,000
- League D group winners: €500,000
The four group winners of League A, which will participate in the Nations League Finals, will also receive the following bonus fees based on performance:
- Winners: €4,500,000
- Runners-up: €3,500,000
- Third place: €2,500,000
- Fourth place: €1,500,000"
I don't like the new format for the European Championship qualifying and Finals either.
Qualifying is all compressed and watered down.
Qualifiers take place only in five or six day periods (two matchdays) in the five months of March, June, September, October, November 2019.
The Finals have a messy format where they will take place in twelve cities in twelve countries over a month in June-July 2020
Bizarrely, the twelve host cities are already chosen and there's no guarantee at all that those countries will qualify for the Finals, especially Azerbaijan, Hungary, Romania, Scotland, Denmark and Republic of Ireland.
The Finals have a messy format where they will take place in twelve cities in twelve countries over a month in June-July 2020
Bizarrely, the twelve host cities are already chosen and there's no guarantee at all that those countries will qualify for the Finals, especially Azerbaijan, Hungary, Romania, Scotland, Denmark and Republic of Ireland.
To make it even messier, the cities have been paired together for each of the EURO 2020 groups:
- Group A: Rome (Italy) and Baku (Azerbaijan)
- Group B: Saint Petersburg (Russia) and Copenhagen (Denmark)
- Group C: Amsterdam (Netherlands) and Bucharest (Romania)
- Group D: London (England) and Glasgow (Scotland)
- Group E: Bilbao (Spain) and Dublin (Republic of Ireland)
- Group F: Munich (Germany) and Budapest (Hungary)
So if you end up in Group A, you only have a casual distance of 4,000km and 2-hour time zone difference between your match venues.
Got excited as I saw all these international friendly posts in the All Whites and other NZ teams thread....
I see Asia are looking into setting up a Nations League system as well from 2021. Would be great if Oceania could work in involvement in some way.
I see Asia are looking into setting up a Nations League system as well from 2021. Would be great if Oceania could work in involvement in some way.
Hasn't had a lot of coverage, but Nations League has also started in this FIFA window in CONCACAF (has total 41 members - mostly minnows). For example Canada beat British Virgin Islands 8-0.
And yes Oceania should be lobbying FIFA to be included with Asia, esp as Infantino has mentioned several times that one of the big goals of the Nations League setup is development of smaller nations, and giving them meaningful games against bigger teams.
I see Asia are looking into setting up a Nations League system as well from 2021. Would be great if Oceania could work in involvement in some way.
Hasn't had a lot of coverage, but Nations League has also started in this FIFA window in CONCACAF (has total 41 members - mostly minnows). For example Canada beat British Virgin Islands 8-0.
And yes Oceania should be lobbying FIFA to be included with Asia, esp as Infantino has mentioned several times that one of the big goals of the Nations League setup is development of smaller nations, and giving them meaningful games against bigger teams.
Didn't realise CONCACAF were doing one too. Looks like the current matches are qualifying for the non-top teams to see which league they go into. Poor old Sint Maarten got walloped 13-0 by Haiti.
Pretty good grounds for FIFA to set up a worldwide system if you have a few confederations doing their own thing anyway.
Seems that FIFA definitely want a worldwide system, but stumbling block is UEFA saying it was their idea (well for Europe anyway) - and why should FIFA now have control of this potential cash cow.
Seems that FIFA definitely want a worldwide system, but stumbling is UEFA saying it was there idea (well for Europe anyway) - and why should FIFA now have control of this potential cash cow.
The irony being that it was Gianni Infantino who pitched it as a money-spinner for UEFA (FIFA bad, boooo), and it's now Gianni Infantino pushing it as logically sitting with FIFA (FIFA good, woooo). Football huh.
Seems that FIFA definitely want a worldwide system, but stumbling is UEFA saying it was there idea (well for Europe anyway) - and why should FIFA now have control of this potential cash cow.
The irony being that it was Gianni Infantino who pitched it as a money-spinner for UEFA (FIFA bad, boooo), and it's now Gianni Infantino pushing it as logically sitting with FIFA (FIFA good, woooo). Football huh.
His idea, his balls!!!
Sad that there's a lots of new posts here but not one properly AW related. :-(
I see that Uzbekistan play South Korea in an international friendly in Brisbane on 20th November. Can't see any other fixtures for Uzbekistan in that international window, surely an opportunity to bring them over to NZ for a game?
Australia also play South Korea and Lebanon on 17th and 20th November at home.
I see that Uzbekistan play South Korea in an international friendly in Brisbane on 20th November. Can't see any other fixtures for Uzbekistan in that international window, surely an opportunity to bring them over to NZ for a game?
Australia also play South Korea and Lebanon on 17th and 20th November at home.
There's a frigging suprise. Westpac trust charge the Nix an arm & a leg too. Oddly enough Rugby has a cheaper deal I hear, and considering they have lesser games, one does wonder about the Westpac Trust motives as a designated Charitible Organisation.
I see that Uzbekistan play South Korea in an international friendly in Brisbane on 20th November. Can't see any other fixtures for Uzbekistan in that international window, surely an opportunity to bring them over to NZ for a game?
Australia also play South Korea and Lebanon on 17th and 20th November at home.
Was that really a waste? They got the biggest crowd ever for a Womens international in NZ, It was also the first time in a few years that the Ferns actually played at home (and only the 3rd time in Wellington) I really don't see how having one of your national teams actually playing at home can be called a waste of money
There's a frigging suprise. Westpac trust charge the Nix an arm & a leg too. Oddly enough Rugby has a cheaper deal I hear, and considering they have lesser games, one does wonder about the Westpac Trust motives as a designated Charitible Organisation.
Tax - or the ability to pay less because they are a charitable organisation