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will All Whites play friendly matches whether results in play-offs ?

they should realize importance of FIFA rankings

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Head Sleuth
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That they're unimportant? 

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they're important bro, EU work permits become a heck of a lot easier

TV
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Team wont play till after brazil - maybe even 2015

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reg22 wrote:

they're important bro, EU work permits become a heck of a lot easier

 

Also important for seedings for World Cup qualifying (though this is not all that applicable to us).

But yeah, can't see us playing many games next year, if any.

Cock
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We may pick up a training fodder game for teams heading to Brazil. We are not going there, our team wont kick the crap out of the opponents, friendly and we can put out a decent young team.

 

I wonder if Australia fancy a rematch........

Starting XI
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that would be brilliant

i pissed myself laughing when grella had to retire injured.  it would be good to maim that cunt cahill too

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I think we need to be playing matches regularly. Why don't we play Australia more often? Alternate venues every other year. 

Play Oz in June before the WC and maybe a London friendly in February (mainly so I can watch ha ha).

Is there another Oceania Nations Cup in 2014?



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UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

I think we need to be playing matches regularly. Why don't we play Australia more often? Alternate venues every other year. 

Play Oz in June before the WC and maybe a London friendly in February (mainly so I can watch ha ha).

Is there another Oceania Nations Cup in 2014?

Rumour has it that depending on the make up of the South Pacific Games, there will be no OFC Nations Cup. You heard it here 1st.
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Jeff Vader wrote:
UK_ALLWHITE wrote:

I think we need to be playing matches regularly. Why don't we play Australia more often? Alternate venues every other year. 

Play Oz in June before the WC and maybe a London friendly in February (mainly so I can watch ha ha).

Is there another Oceania Nations Cup in 2014?

Rumour has it that depending on the make up of the South Pacific Games, there will be no OFC Nations Cup. You heard it here 1st.

Applications for coach of non-playing international team here please. Laugh? You've got to.

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Why would Australia play us? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. They know we'll come out and try kick the crap out of their players and it will be one of those games. They have nothing to prove to us. They are better than us and have absolutely nothing to gain. It's a loss loss situation for them and a win win situation for us.

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Seb wrote:

Why would Australia play us? They have nothing to gain and everything to lose. They know we'll come out and try kick the crap out of their players and it will be one of those games. They have nothing to prove to us. They are better than us and have absolutely nothing to gain. It's a loss loss situation for them and a win win situation for us.


You mean like the last time we played them?
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Jeff Vader wrote:

We may pick up a training fodder game for teams heading to Brazil. We are not going there, our team wont kick the crap out of the opponents, friendly and we can put out a decent young team.

Absolutely brilliant if NZF could make this happen, but I suppose the likelihood depends on the cost to the NZF. Does anyone know how this kind of thing works?

Cock
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You just hit up countries that are going there. All you do is say 'If you want a training camp in NZ, we are happy to host you and we can assemble a team to play against you. there will be a small cost involved but we take the gate.' You then trot out a team mainly of off season Euros (Wood, Smith and Reid) and players in the Australasian area. Its an easy win if NZF are proactive. The operative word in that sentence is proactive.

Smart people would hit up Australia and other teams that are close by for friendlies.

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what say teams want warm up matches before the world cup? australia? usa?

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[quote=brettdale55]

what say teams want warm up matches before the world cup? australia? usa?

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All lovely in theory folks but please have a look at a world map, check out some travel options and let me know the flight plan which takes you via NZ to get to Brazil. Why would a team go out of their way to play us?

Legend
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Throw in a quick tour of the Shire/Hobbiton and a cable car trip.  Compelling.



Or we could travel to their place.


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happydays wrote:
brettdale55 wrote:

what say teams want warm up matches before the world cup? australia? usa?

All lovely in theory folks but please have a look at a world map, check out some travel options and let me know the flight plan which takes you via NZ to get to Brazil. Why would a team go out of their way to play us?

Its why I suggested Australia and teams in Asia. Unlikely to come from anywhere else.
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could we do a tour of europe or south amreica before brazil   maybe can get some games that way

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Whoever draws Australia in the WC group stage may fancy a warm up against us.


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happydays wrote:
[quote=brettdale55]

what say teams want warm up matches before the world cup? australia? usa?

[/quote

All lovely in theory folks but please have a look at a world map, check out some travel options and let me know the flight plan which takes you via NZ to get to Brazil. Why would a team go out of their way to play us?

 
Australia  could fly to us, then directly to Brazil?
Woof Woof
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You can't fly directly to Brazil from New Zealand (nor Australia for that matter).

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These are the dates on the FIFA Website until 2018

2014 FIFA Calendar
Friendly 05 March (Ideal matches would be Australia in London)
2014 FIFA World Cup 12 June-13 July ???
2 Friendlies 01-09 September (Ideal matches would be away at Canada and USA)
2 Friendlies 06-14 October (Ideal matches would be away at Jordan and Kuwait for 2015 Asian Cup if they qualifiy)
2 Friendlies 10-18 November (Ideal matches would be away to Indonesia and Thailand for 2015 Asian Cup if they qualifiy)

2015 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 23-31 March
2 Matches 08-16 June
2 Matches 31 August-08 September
2 Matches 05-13 October
2 Matches 09-17 November

2016 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 21-29 March
2 Matches 30 May-07 June (Warm-up with China or South Africa at home but FIFA World Cup qualifying?)
2016 OFC Nations Cup could be played before or during those dates, I would have it from 01 June-16 June
2 Matches 29 August-6 September (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)
2 Matches 03-11 October (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)
2 Matches 07-18 November (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)

2017 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 20-28 March
2 Matches 05-13 June
2017 FIFA Confederations Cup 17 June-02 July ???
2 Matches 28 August-05 September
2 Matches 02-10 October
2 Matches 06-14 November

2018 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 19-27 March
2018 FIFA World Cup 08 June-08 July ???

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el grapadura wrote:

You can't fly directly to Brazil from New Zealand (nor Australia for that matter).



well you can ...its sheduled flights that are the problem...
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From NZ it's marginal - I know Air NZ was looking into this, but nothing came of it. Australia is too far away.

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dhall2511 wrote:

These are the dates on the FIFA Website until 2018

2014 FIFA Calendar
Friendly 05 March (Ideal matches would be Australia in London)
2014 FIFA World Cup 12 June-13 July ???
2 Friendlies 01-09 September (Ideal matches would be away at Canada and USA)
2 Friendlies 06-14 October (Ideal matches would be away at Jordan and Kuwait for 2015 Asian Cup if they qualifiy)
2 Friendlies 10-18 November (Ideal matches would be away to Indonesia and Thailand for 2015 Asian Cup if they qualifiy)

2015 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 23-31 March
2 Matches 08-16 June
2 Matches 31 August-08 September
2 Matches 05-13 October
2 Matches 09-17 November

2016 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 21-29 March
2 Matches 30 May-07 June (Warm-up with China or South Africa at home but FIFA World Cup qualifying?)
2016 OFC Nations Cup could be played before or during those dates, I would have it from 01 June-16 June
2 Matches 29 August-6 September (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)
2 Matches 03-11 October (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)
2 Matches 07-18 November (2018 FIFA World Cup - OFC Third Round)

2017 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 20-28 March
2 Matches 05-13 June
2017 FIFA Confederations Cup 17 June-02 July ???
2 Matches 28 August-05 September
2 Matches 02-10 October
2 Matches 06-14 November

2018 FIFA Calendar
2 Matches 19-27 March
2018 FIFA World Cup 08 June-08 July ???



Tommy Smith and Chris James have given their views on what they want All Whites to do post Herbert and on the Road to Russia 2017/2018
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/soccer-football/news/article.cfm?c_id=86&objectid=11160916
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9428597/NZ-Football-must-act-now-to-land-a-top-coach
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/football/9424974/Chris-James-calls-for-bigger-All-Whites-games

Also teams NZ should play are top teams from CONCACAF, CAF, AFC also South America but the european teams will not be playing many friendly matches after the 2014 World Cup.
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If we can't afford to fly teams in from Asia or Americas, and/or players from Europe, perhaps arrange a couple of friendlies each year against OFC nations playing with players based in NZ, Australia and East Asia? 

Keeps ranking points ticking over and players on the fringes get more of a chance to impress in the All Whites shirt. No more of these silly 'B' or u23  internationals!

Be good for the development of young players like Fenton, Rufer, Roux etc... and give ASB Premier players more hope of impressing. Take on Solomon Is and Vanuatu in September or October!


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Jeff Vader wrote:
happydays wrote:
brettdale55 wrote:

what say teams want warm up matches before the world cup? australia? usa?

All lovely in theory folks but please have a look at a world map, check out some travel options and let me know the flight plan which takes you via NZ to get to Brazil. Why would a team go out of their way to play us?

Its why I suggested Australia and teams in Asia. Unlikely to come from anywhere else.
Unless Australia, Japan or South Korea want to play us, most likely scenario would be playing friendlies in South America or North America.
Remember when we played Brazil in Geneva, Switzerland on the eve of the 2006 World Cup in neighbouring Germany:
WeeNix
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I remember reading Mexico had looked at organising a tournament for teams that didnt quite make it. Would be cool to get something like this happeing. Get all the teams that lost in a playoff, I imagine youd get some decent TV money.


Dreams are free right?

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nomeans wrote:

We need to bring back the trans-tasman cup if we cant get into asia. We need to utilize every fifa window to play as many friendly matches as possible with AFC opponents. (Probably will be the cheapest for decent quality teams)



Ideal teams to play during the 2014-18 period

AFC
Australia
Bahrain
Cambodia
China
Indonesia
Iraq
Jordan
Japan
Kuwait
Malaysia
Philippines
Qatar
Saudi Arabia
Singapore
Thailand
United Arab Emirates
Uzbekistan
Vietnam

CAF
Algeria
Cameroon
Egypt
Ghana
Ivory Coast
Morocco
Nigeria
Senegal
South Africa
Tunisia

CONCACAF
Canada
Costa Rica
El Salvador
Grenada
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Jamaica
Panama
Trinidad and Tobago
United States of America

CONMEBOL
Chile
Colombia
Ecuador
Paraguay
Peru
Venezuela

UEFA
I won't put UEFA teams down because for two reasons, first the FIFA Windom for 2014-18 does not cater for UEFA Friendlies and second the qualification series for 2016 Euros and 2018 World Cup does not have space for friendly matches.
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we should play a womans team

LG
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Why dont the NZF put us out there in the spotlight, suggesting to teams that are playing in the World Cup, to come and play us in a warm up? It could be a possitive win win for everyone and gain valuable experiences for the younger players in our team.

Isn't there direct flights to Argentina so teams could come here, go there and onto Brazil. Just remember these other countries have substantially more disposable funds than us. What we can offer is game time and some decent accomodation.

We wont know if we dont give it a try.

Woof Woof
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Getting to New Zealand is so difficult that such an idea would not really appeal to anyone.

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FU BLU wrote:
el grapadura wrote:

You can't fly directly to Brazil from New Zealand (nor Australia for that matter).



well you can ...its sheduled flights that are the problem...
you can fly to Santiago, from where there would be truckloads of direct flights to Brazil, and not too circuitous. Why are we having this discussion again ....
Starting XI
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Nobody's coming here for a game pre World Cup, but that doesn't mean we can't jack up something next year.

Woof Woof
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We'd have to base ourselves in Europe to get any games. And don't think we'd be sought after opposition for teams that have qualified for the World Cup, but could pick up games against the mid to lower ranking European sides. 


Legend
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Do NZF consult the players and get them to help attracting friendly games? I imagine players like Winnie, Tommy and Wood may have a few connections with players from other countries...

TV
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A few games in europe in june would work

Scotland, Austria etc perhaps then hopefully during sept oct windows again

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TV wrote:

A few games in europe in june would work

Scotland, Austria etc perhaps then hopefully during sept oct windows again



Could work though.
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We could be a nice warm up game for any team in ausis world cup group. One would also think we should target Asian countries (wealthy ones, who wont mind paying a good portion of our costs) who are always playing Ausi in their competitions (the Koreas, Japan's, Saudi Arabia's, Qatars) of this world. It also would not hurt aligning ourselves more with this part of the world.


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